I bought one 4.5 years ago after reading all about it on the 7 STW forum on this website. Will have no better performance than the 7mm STW, 7mm Ultra Mag or any of the three cartridges I listed above. Bras flows every time you work or fire it, it's why we have to trim our brass and why eventually it wears through. They are great designs. I have two 7X57's, a 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm STW and a 28 Nosler. Just got a 28 Nosler built on a Stiller predator action, Bartlein barrel 27.5" 1 in 8 twist. Outdoor Life may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. The old 7mm Rem. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. So the 28 Nosler is really nothing different. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. If you think you can seat a 180gr Berger in that case while using most Accurately I believe that's notably faster than the 28 Nosler. Tags: .28 caliber, 7mm, cartridge, elk hunting, Long Range, Nosler, up-armored elk Nosler has announced what it calls the “most powerful commercial 7mm cartridge”: The .28 Nosler. Re: 7mm rum Vs 7mm stw Vs 28 nosler by 1sikxt » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:09 pm Basically I got 7mm rem mag that I'm going to rebarrel I'm thinking one of the the faster 7mm cartridges with a fast twist for 165-195 gr projectiles will be used for hunting and a little bit of target shooting I'm not a big fan of core lokts , if you're going to use factory ammo I'd look at the Nosler The STW did set an ELR World Record last yr. Just saying. Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.85" Width: 0.532" Average FPS: 3239 Average Energy: 3494 Average Gr: 150 Recoil: 2.31 Power Rank: 4.86 of 20 The 7mm Shooting Times Westerner (STW) was designed in 1979 by Layne Simpson as a wildcat cartridge and produced for the commercial market starting in 1989. Because they are popular maybe ? Wildlife Agencies Are Calling on Hunters for Help, Our Obsession with Greenheads Is Ruining Duck Hunting as We Know It, Update: President-Elect Biden Picks Deb Haaland for Department of Interior Secretary, Married to the Game: Becoming a Great Hunter Means Living in the Moment. Why aren’t the big names chambering the stw ? Based on the same case as the .26 Nosler (itself based on the .404 Jeffery) , marketing literature for the round claims a performance of 160 grains at 3,300 feet per second from a 26″ barrel. Tested: 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler. I have tested, owned, built and shot many 7 rem mags, 7mm-300 win mags, a few 7 stw's, a 7 RUM or two and others in the .284 family. The 26 Nosler vs .270 Winchester vs 7mm Updated Posted on January 7, 2015 by Ed Hale There are those that are proponents of the 6.5mm Cartridges over the .270 WInchester. I can step up to a 30 magnum and do better for the same price in recoil. The 7mm Rem Mag is popular for a good reason. Making the new cartridge shorter allows it to be used in the Nosler Model 48 rifle, the magazine of which is shorter than those in actions of standard length, such as the Remington Model 700 and Winchester Model 70. Not saying there is a thing wrong with the STW, it can do the same All rights reserved. The 28 Nosler is pretty much the same as a 7mm STW or a RUM, I've owned both and not really overwhelmed with either of them. Will the upstarts dethrone the old guard? The 7mm STW is based off the parent case 8mm Remington Magnum with a narrowed neck to fit a .284 inch bullet on … Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. I was wondering what is the real world performance differences between the 7mm Dakota and the 28 Nosler, especially with 180 and 195 grain bullets. They … This cartridge works well with a wide variety of powders. That is why the nosler is able to get the same capacity as the stw in a shorter case length and that also improves being able to seat heavy for caliber bullets optimally where they are not taking up case capacity. The 28 nosler I think Is not a fad and is the best of the group and sells !! There is 28 factory and brass in every store in our little town, never seen STW. The 7mm RUM I have shoots a 168gr NAB at 3440 fps. Will the magnums out power the non-magnums? A Bonnier Corporation Company. Ron Spomer provides an in-depth look at Nosler's 7mm rifle cartridge, the 28 Nosler. SAAMI maximum overall cartridge length for the 7mm STW is 3.600 inches versus 3.340 inches for the.28 Nosler. With the 27 Nosler I think OK, what’s your gun-related Christmas gift? Have done extensive load workups and I'v got a pretty good handle and data on it with bullet weights 175-180, what the Nosler brass can and can't take pressure wise, powders, Retumbo-H1000-H50BMG You are using an out of date browser. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. As an example of the 7mm STW’s excellent external ballistics, when loaded with the 175-grain AccuBond LR at 2900 fps—as it is in Nosler’s Trophy Grade Long Range ammunition—and zeroed at 200 yards, the bullet will drop 6.58, 18.81 and 37.31 inches at 300, 400 and 500 yards, respectively, according to shooterscalculator.com. And, with so many guys owning a STW, there is a wealth of info and help out there if you need it. The shorter fatter case makes for really nice cartridge in the factory 3.65" magazine box. SAAMI maximum overall cartridge length for the 7mm STW is 3.600 inches versus 3.340 inches for the .28 Nosler. The STW is an amazing cartridge. Totally tolerable. Making the new cartridge shorter allows it to be used in the Nosler Model 48 rifle, the magazine of which is shorter than those in actions of standard length, such as the Remington Model 700 and Winchester Model 70. With full power factory loads or equivalent reloads, expect barrel life to … I’m going to try the Nosler Trophy Grade Long Range AB in my 7mm STW and .30 06. Find some info for us , I would bet the 28 nosler has or is close to out selling the 7stw ? We are pleased to announce the latest caliber in our long range lineup. If the STW is getting that many rounds per barrel, the Nosler should be VERY close to the same since their basically identical capacity. Ballistic-wise, the .28 Nosler is identical to the 7mm STW. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150 They don't catalog the 7 RUM in the for hunting deer and elk, but they are few except if you create a new Cartridge like the 26 Nosler. I only have the bigger 7mm's for fun and experimenting. Ron Spomer. Can You Keep COVID-Vulnerable Hunters Safe and Have a Real Deer Camp? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Bend, Ore. – January 1, 2018 – In an effort to provide their customers with the most accurate information possible, Nosler® sent their entire line of AccuBond® Long Range (ABLR) bullets to an independent testing facility to have their Ballistic Coefficients (BCs) tested and verified by Doppler radar.. Copyright © 2020 Outdoor Life. You must log in or register to reply here. As far as the commercial it says fastest 7mm on your dealer's shelf. I did go 28 Nosler, in 2017. 'but not so much of a barrel-burner like the 28 Nosler.' The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bullets—just faster. Bullet Cost - Why is this so much a wild hair. The 7mm WSM has a case capacity of approximately 82 grains of H2O. JavaScript is disabled. I did it. It is an 8mm Remington Magnum case that has been “necked down” (narrowing the case opening) by 1 mm to accept 7 mm (.284 in) bullets. Had chamber throated so that the 195's were .015 off the lands and the boat tail of the bullet is just above where the shoulder and neck meet. I've had one for about 15 years and it's smashed a ton of deer and one girl elk. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. But even then, it's got a long way to go to compete in legacy with the 7mm STW. Love the STW ! Mag. They will be around for a long time. H1000 seems to be particularly well suited to the heavier bullet weights. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. Lack of a belt is a improvement in case capacity when comparing the same size bolt face. The Nosler Model 48 Liberty rifle comes with a 1-inch accuracy guarantee and is available in a host of 7mm chamberings, including 7mm-08, .280 AI, 7mm Remington Magnum and the company’s own 28 Nosler. But I would be willing to bet, with care taken, they would be 1000-1200 rounds per barrel for both of them. I would be surprised if you found it lacking. Kinda shoots the hell out of the "inherently accurate case design" theory we keep hearing about the more modern cases. 7mm STW 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip-The 7mm Shooting Times Westerner, sometimes referred to as the 7mm STW began as a wildcat rifle cartridge developed by Layne Simpson in 1979. Since then, I have also added the 7mm STW in an older Sendero with the laminated stock. As some of us who have been shooting the STW for a few decades about barrel life. Why is that ? The 7mm Remington Ultra Mag uses a larger capacity case and, loaded to the same MAP, has the potential to outperform the.28 Nosler, although not by a lot. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 1CB10C8B-9110-41BA-9E7A-3CD08DCE0205.jpeg. It’s my go to antelope and mule deer weapon when I’m hunting in the west. It’s easy to find 7stw brass but 28 nosler can be hard at times ? I will bet money there are more 28 Noslers than STWs out there now, I'm this area no one even knows what it is, I've rebarrel every STW I've ever seen to 28 Nosler. Plus, it shoots teeny tiny groups at high velocity. The 7 STW is a certified critter wrecker at any range . It’s become my favorite cartridge. While we used Federal 215 primers, any magnum primer will work well with the 7mm STW. They don't The 28 and 30 nosler have been very popular builds the last few years for me for a very good reason. When I picked it up I found that Midway was having a clearance on some Federal ammo which used the 150gr Nosler Solid Base, and The .30 Magnums are good weapons but I feel like the kick of the various 7mm Mags (of standard vs. lightweight persuasion) is about that of my .30-06 with 180 grain bullets. Like the 7mm STW and 7mm RUM, the.28 Nosler is seriously over-bore. Like the .264 Win. I'll bet a good percentage of STWs are now rebarrel to 28 Nosler!! 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